Furthering the Bechdel Test
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I was recently thinking about the Bechdel test—whether a work of fiction
and ways it might be extended to the next level. I like this formulation: a story
Alice's Adventures in Wonderland and Through the Looking Glass pass. As does The Wizard of Oz and Frozen. I suppose Island of the Blue Dolphins passes, though I'm not sure if getting off the island was the main character's goal. So there's decent success at stories targeted at young people, though Disney certainly has a history of missing the mark. In the women-killing-dangerous-enemies genre, the films Alien (and Aliens) and the Girl With the Dragon Tattoo trilogy pass.
I then realized that I don't know, off hand, a lot of stories or films with female protagonists. And many of the ones I do know, I've forgotten what the reward is at the end of the story. I'd love to hear more stories in the comments to add to the list.
- Has at least two female characters
- Who talk to each other
- About something other than a man
and ways it might be extended to the next level. I like this formulation: a story
- Has a female protagonist
- Who completes her objective
- And is rewarded with something other than a man
Alice's Adventures in Wonderland and Through the Looking Glass pass. As does The Wizard of Oz and Frozen. I suppose Island of the Blue Dolphins passes, though I'm not sure if getting off the island was the main character's goal. So there's decent success at stories targeted at young people, though Disney certainly has a history of missing the mark. In the women-killing-dangerous-enemies genre, the films Alien (and Aliens) and the Girl With the Dragon Tattoo trilogy pass.
I then realized that I don't know, off hand, a lot of stories or films with female protagonists. And many of the ones I do know, I've forgotten what the reward is at the end of the story. I'd love to hear more stories in the comments to add to the list.
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Date: 2018-10-10 12:10 pm (UTC)Un Lun Dun
The Occasional Diamond Thief
Records of a Spaceborn Few (not sure which viewpoint character is the protagonist, but lots of them are female and none of them get hitched)
City of Stairs
Ancillary Justice (okay, I never remember which is first, but that trilogy)
A Face Like Glass
The Golem and the Jinni
This list is just off the top of my head, mind.
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Date: 2018-10-10 01:50 pm (UTC)Buffy
(A man is sometimes the reward, but usually ends up sacrificed later to achieve a goal)
Supergirl
The new Doctor Who
(Probably; I haven't had time to watch the first episode yet, but it'd be really surprising if a man is the reward very often)
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Date: 2018-10-10 07:15 pm (UTC)The Discworld novels with witches and Tiffany Aching all fit the bill, I believe.
Barbara Hambly has written a number of fantasy books with female protagonists who complete their objective, but I can't remember which ones get other rewards.
Hmm, do female but non-human protagonists qualify? How about books with multiple protagonists, some of whom are female?
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Date: 2018-10-10 07:15 pm (UTC)no subject
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