flwyd: (I *kiss* linguists)
In a meeting discussing a proposal that's similar to some that had been implemented and failed, I noted that We're standing on the corpses of giants.

Give and Take

Monday, January 11th, 2010 12:03 pm
flwyd: (I *kiss* linguists)
At a first pass, give and take are reciprocal verbs. But they're involved in some nonreciprocal idioms:

Caregivers and caretakers are the same thing. Shouldn't the patient be the caretaker? Also, "Take care" (as a command or suggestion) means "Be careful," but when someone gives lots of care, the recipient isn't careful or full of care.

Giving a shit and taking a shit have nothing in common. The first is a synonym for caring (but not in a caregiver/caretaker way), the latter is a biological activity.

There are some idioms where the reciprocity is preserved, though. If someone takes up golf, he starts golfing. If someone gives up golf, he stops golfing.

In the middle ground, if you take out an add, you generally give out your phone number or address.

Any more?
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